Posts by FatFreek 2005

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The Paid Clergy of the WTBTS

by The Searcher in

does the wtbts of transylvania have a paid clergy?.

but do they lie about it and claim otherwise?

here are some of their falsehoods, imitating "the father of the lie" and his deceptive practices, to blind people's minds:.

Woody Allen speaks out

by NewYork44M in

woody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.

have you ever been accused of something you did not do?

if that happens, what do you do?.

Thanks for your supportive response, Magwitch. I've also received several encouraging PMs, one of which conceding that she had been coached into wrongly charging her father years ago. She later apologized and they now have a good relationship.

Len

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Woody Allen speaks out

by NewYork44M in

woody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.

have you ever been accused of something you did not do?

if that happens, what do you do?.

FatFreek 2005

The OP posted this question: "Have you ever been accused of something you did not do? If that happens, what do you do?"

I thought long and hard about posting a response to this thread. It's been some ten years since I was accused by my adopted son.

This son of some 38 years of age was found dead in a room littered with drug paraphernalia a few years after he telephoned me with this shattering revelation (to him) and accusation (of me) thanks to one of those therapist sessions where they take an alleged victim back during some type of memory regression.

Skeeter (not his real name) told me via long distance telephone that one of his sessions revealed that he was sexually abused when he was about 10 years old and that I was the perpetrator.

Skeeter and his old brother were abandoned by their father (my recently deceased older brother) in 1964 while the mother was in a mental hospital ward when the tyke was only 6 weeks old. My then wife and I decided to adopt them despite already having two children of our own. We were both JWs and 23 years old at the time.

It would be some 13 years later that I decided to abandon the Watchtower ship after re-reading the 1975 yearbook where the governing body reminded us how those faithless in 1925 used their overactive imaginations in thinking that faithful men of old would be resurrected in that year. They then drew a 50 year parallel to the possibility that same thing could happen with the 1975 date and that some of us could have overactive imaginations as well. History proves that did indeed happen. Another casualty of my abandoning “mother's” ship was our divorce of some 19 years of marriage.

I digress. Back to that phone call and Skeeter was on the other end of the line. Naturally I became angry. I quickly realized there was nothing I could tell him that would change his mind, a once brilliant mind that had become blurred by some 15 years of drug abuse. I told him that I would not be answering the phone if I knew he was on the other end unless it would be to hear a retraction of that horrific charge followed by an apology. That never happened.

Skeeter and his older brother Jake never became JWs as did their non-adopted siblings. That 1977 divorce tore the kids down the middle and Skeeter and Jake opted to live with me. However, they at times both waffled back and forth enough to realize from their mother how horrible a father I was, that I "never really loved them and that I hated Jehovah".

Years later, Jake relayed to me this "almost daily" hate campaign their jilted mother would wage.

In retrospect it doesn't surprise me that Skeeter came up with this incredible charge against me since it opened the door with his mother and JW siblings for subsequent sympathy handouts. All this would justify and reinforce their hatred of me as apostate turned sex offender.

I was fortunate enough to live several thousand miles away from Skeeter and my former family where my alleged reputation was isolated. It should, however, be understandable that when I hear some "he said, she said" story, my sympathy always favors the slandered.

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A letter from my brother Nathan to my uncle in 1978 when Nathan was at Bethel

by Magwitch in

my uncle recently died and apparently he never threw anything away.

among many things he held onto was a letter that my brother wrote to my uncle in 1978 from bethel.

my brother was in the same hall as howard zenke (a real heavy at bethel) and nathan rode to all the meetings with howard and beana.

FatFreek 2005

Ah, yes -- 1984 -- and that shocking Watchtower cover, bringing so many expectations nearly 30 years ago. Len Miller

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Just testing -- paste from Libre using Chrome browser

by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

Yes, LibreOffice Writer.

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Just testing -- paste from Libre using Chrome browser

by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

Copy text from George's post below, Internet Explorer.

RUN LIKE HELL

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by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

Now is the time for all good men to exit the Watchtower . (red good and 36 pt Watchtower)

Now is the time for all good men to exit the Watchtower . (larger magenta good and comic sans tower)

Using Internet Explorger browser

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by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

Now is the time for all goodmen to exit the Watchtower .

Hey, George -- a big thanks for that.

Len

Ooops. Editing to say I had two different colored texts and chose the largest font size. on one of them. I wonder if my browser (Chrome) has something to do with it.

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by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

In both cases font color was brought over but font size changes were ignored.

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by FatFreek 2005 in

"12. on the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time.

every day, new understanding is perceived.

remember 2 peter 3:16 ".

FatFreek 2005

"At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case." The Watchtower, 1981, 12/1 p. 27

"At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case." The Watchtower, 1981, 12/1 p. 27

Above pasted from JWN word icon.